Re: [Gendispatch] IETF transparency and diversity

Tony Rutkowski <rutkowski.tony@gmail.com> Sat, 10 April 2021 18:21 UTC

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From: Tony Rutkowski <rutkowski.tony@gmail.com>
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Hi Nico,

There is actually effective solace in many if not most industry 
standards bodies today where those with a common interest and 
collaborative style do well - frequently embellished with good wine and 
food.  Courtesy of Google Patents, however, we can all see that the 
world of standards bodies is surrounded by the vast "dark matter" of 
proprietary standards threaded through vendor products and services.  
Only some of the IPR makes it into industry bodies to advance market 
strategies.  All standards bodies tend to persist in the delusion of 
being in control of some perceived turf.

Over the past 45 years, I've been in most of them - mapping and 
analyzing them, and pushing occasional work here and there.  They all 
have their own proclivities.  Some like the ISO or ATIS, I still disdain 
and eschew for multiple detractions - not the least of which is selling 
off someone else's IPR as standards. Hopefully, Karl Malamud will 
prevail in his EUCOJ litigation.

The IETF in the 80s and early 90s had hope, but became a cult with 
religious views - propped up by entities who earn massive revenues from 
what was once called Silicon Snake Oil.  It was always amazing how 
pushing bits around was turned into a religion and community, only to 
ultimately burp out alt-universe wonders like QAnon.  There is life on 
the outside.

Enuf said....

cheers, tony


On 09-Apr-21 6:11 PM, Nico Williams wrote:
> Corporate and military organizations can do it, if they get lucky,
> because all it takes is someone at the top with the right vision,
> skills, and will power.  We're not such an organization.  We have egos
> in the way.