Re: [Idr] community of the day - common header
Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Fri, 09 September 2016 18:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idr] community of the day - common header
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> On Sep 9, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 07:46:50PM +0200, Robert Raszuk wrote: >> If WG agrees on attribute + common header as described in current -03 >> version of wide community draft with perhaps additional comments to be >> incorporated in it - then we are done. > > And if the WG does not agree, then -large is blocked? Or how do I have > to read this statement? > > Seems you and Jakob have been discussing this for years now, while the > operator community is waiting for something they can *just use*, no matter > whether it's brilliant or extensible or perfect. there was a semi-decent timeline covered at NLNOG today, going back to 2002, namely an attempt to do something here: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lange-flexible-bgp-communities Here’s the presentation slides: https://nlnog.net/static/nlnogday2016/14_NLNOG_large_communities.pdf I’m hoping there is an archive of the video, as there was palpable frustration from the operator community at the microphone which may help inform the frustration which is here on-list. - jared
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