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Re: [Idr] community of the day - common header

John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net> Thu, 22 September 2016 19:38 UTC

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From: John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>
To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
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Acee,

Of course not. I think Job summarized it admirably. 

I do encourage people to take a deep breath, gather their thoughts, and wait for the -00 of the WG draft to be posted before piling on. And of course, to make new points rather than reiterating old ones -- we have a mailing list archive, we know what you already said, there is no need to repeat. 

Finally, IMHO "+1" posts add nothing at all to the conversation with the possible exception of when we are doing a formal consensus call -- which we currently are not. (Even then they're marginal.) 

--John

> On Sep 22, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi John, 
> But it would be better to have the common header discussion now rather
> than during WGLC. Can we then assume that the discussion has concluded and
> that the requirement for a common header is off the table?
> Thanks,
> Acee 
> 
> On 9/22/16, 2:33 PM, "Idr on behalf of Job Snijders" <idr-bounces@ietf.org
> on behalf of job@ntt.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Gert,
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 08:30:15PM +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:06:38PM -0400, John G. Scudder wrote:
>>>> Folks, the adoption call for large has completed, the result has
>>>> been announced, there is not really any need to continue to debate
>>>> this. If you have a point to make that you think will make people
>>>> smarter and hasn't been made five or six times already in the last
>>>> two weeks, go for it, but IMHO we especially don't need "+1"
>>>> messages.
>>> 
>>> my +1 was not on "adoption" but on Jakob's position regarding common
>>> header, after WG adoption.
>> 
>> Yes, that was clear. I think that John is encouraging the working group
>> to provide new arguments or new information (or new counter arguments)
>> rather than upvote posts made by others.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Job
>> 
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