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Re: bettering open source involvement

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 03 August 2016 16:46 UTC

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Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
    >> That said, I'm not sure we have a concrete proposal for a thing to do.

    > if you write a draft and have running example code, you are accused to
    > be just coming to the ietf for a rubber stamp (cf. sidr).  if you have a
    > draft and no code, idiots such as i comment that the rubber meets the
    > sky.  if you have code but no draft, you're a undisciplined hacker,
    > unless we're in an even numbered year where we're trying to snuggle up
    > to code.

    > imiho, we would benefit from making it easier to come in with a draft
    > and code, the first above.

+5.

And make it easier to do:
    1) Informational on running code.
    2) Spin to 2.0 for Standards Track.

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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
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