Re: bettering open source involvement

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 03 August 2016 22:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: bettering open source involvement
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
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On 04/08/2016 04:46, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>     >> That said, I'm not sure we have a concrete proposal for a thing to do.
> 
>     > if you write a draft and have running example code, you are accused to
>     > be just coming to the ietf for a rubber stamp (cf. sidr).  if you have a
>     > draft and no code, idiots such as i comment that the rubber meets the
>     > sky.  if you have code but no draft, you're a undisciplined hacker,
>     > unless we're in an even numbered year where we're trying to snuggle up
>     > to code.
> 
>     > imiho, we would benefit from making it easier to come in with a draft
>     > and code, the first above.
> 
> +5.
> 
> And make it easier to do:
>     1) Informational on running code.

That is IMHO one of the main attractions of the Independent Submission RFC Stream.

(Full disclosure: I'm a member of the Independent Submission Editorial Board.)

   Brian

>     2) Spin to 2.0 for Standards Track.
> 
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
>  -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
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