Re: [Ietf108planning] Registration open for IETF 108

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 11 June 2020 00:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ietf108planning] Registration open for IETF 108
To: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
Cc: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, ietf <ietf@ietf.org>, "ietf108planning@ietf.org" <ietf108planning@ietf.org>, "exec-director@ietf.org" <exec-director@ietf.org>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On 11-Jun-20 11:36, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Jun 10, 2020, at 18:10, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Again, I think the best outcome here would be to waive
>> 100% and not 100 of the remote registration fees for
>> IETF108 and let the community debate this before such
>> decisions are taken. If we cannot afford that, then
>> please say so clearly - that would be a relevant fact.
>> But if we could afford that, I really don't get why
>> it's ok to barge ahead like this.
> 
> 
> I agree with Stephen. I’m a bit puzzled why an online meeting would need to recoup a lot of money. 
Staff, equipment, services, network capacity. I don't think this is mysterious, although I don't personally have the data to make a cost estimate. Since meeting revenues have been part of the IETF's budget for more than 30 years, and for many of those years they also partially funded ongoing Secretariat expenses, I don't find any of this surprising, except for the short notice of the actual fee structure.

Certainly, we now have some discussion of principles to complete quite urgently. 

     Brian