Re: [Ietf108planning] Registration open for IETF 108

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Thu, 11 June 2020 17:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ietf108planning] Registration open for IETF 108
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 10:27:03 -0700
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To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>
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Lars,

> On Jun 10, 2020, at 11:36 PM, Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 2020-6-11, at 2:36, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
>> I agree with Stephen. I’m a bit puzzled why an online meeting would need to recoup a lot of money.
> 
> because the IETF's entire funding structure is based around meeting revenues and expenses, which is historically understandable but also not a great match for the present, esp. 2020.

I think the ratio of meeting revenue that funds the IETF operations has gone down significantly in the past years.  The 2020 budget can be found at:

https://ietf.org/blog/ietf-administration-llc-2020-budget/

By my reading, for 2020

  meeting revenue  $3,818,999
  meeting expenses $4,110,242

A loss of $291K.

This is, of course, pre COVAD 19.    It would be good to know what this would look like for all remote for 2020.   I suspect it is a work in progress, but at I would like to know what it is in regard to what would be a reasonable registration fee.

Bob