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Re: [Internetgovtech] Contracts, what problems we are solving (Was: Re: Transition to the web)

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 14 July 2014 20:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Internetgovtech] Contracts, what problems we are solving (Was: Re: Transition to the web)
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On 15/07/2014 06:07, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
> On 7/14/14 9:06 AM, Dave Crocker wrote:
>> An essential point to a legitimate contract is providing for the
>> possibility of switching to someone else.
> 
> The 2011 NTIA NOI and follow-on RFP proposed the IANA Functions contract
> to be awarded through a competitive bid process, and for a finite term.
> 
> The subsequent contract was awarded to the sole bidder, upon re-tender,
> the incumbent contractor, for a term of three (3) years, extensible to
> five (5) years.
> 
> Removing either the finiteness of the term, or the competitive process
> of bidding, really should be explained by their respective advocates, if
> any.

Why does the arcane way that the NTIA contracts worked matter for
the future? We all know that the competitive appearance was just that
and nothing to do with reality. The question now is about teeth for
the watchdog.

    Brian

    Brian

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