Re: [Internetgovtech] Transition to the web

Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> Wed, 09 July 2014 20:40 UTC

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Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 10/07/2014 06:06, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>> Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>> On 09/07/14 18:14, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>>>> But I'm not sure this list is the right place to try to
>>>> tell ICANN how it ought to run its process for figuring out the
>>>> names-relevant transition of the IANA function.
>>> I agree. Which makes it even more of a shame that icann
>>> seem block-headedly intent on shuttering the mailing list
>>> where that discussion would be appropriate.
>>>
>>>
>> Kind of sums up in a sentence all the reasons that ICANN needs continued
>> oversight.
> Yes. I am very disillusioned by this. I agree with Lynn's suggestion
> about triggering some high-level messages about this, but it suggests
> that a watchdog with teeth is needed (and I'm not at all convinced that
> NTIA has teeth in practice). "Teeth" generally means having the power
> to fire people.
>

Or to chop funding.

Miles

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