Re: Fwd: Confirmation to advance: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-05

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Thu, 09 May 2019 14:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: Fwd: Confirmation to advance: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-05
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
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Le 09/05/2019 à 16:00, Mikael Abrahamsson a écrit :
> On Thu, 9 May 2019, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
> 
>> Layer-2 filtering on ethertype is a great idea.  I would concur.
>>
>> But on cellular links there's no ethertype.  It's what they call a PDP 
>> type.
> 
> This draft is irrelevant in that context because for the PDP type there 
> is explicit signaling of the PDP type, so the UE knows whether to use it 
> for IPv4, IPv6 or IPv4+IPv6.
 >
> 
> So there is no RA flag needed.

In a sense I agree: since the network sets this PDP type IPv6 then the 
Host can try as hard as it can IPv4 - it wont get through.

On another sense I disagree:  a Host on a cellular PDP type IPv6 and not 
receiving a flag IPv6-only in an RA is in a messy situation.

Alex
PS: I would like to continue the conversation, but I realize I must 
start to rate limit.

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