Re: Confirmation to advance: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-05

Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Tue, 30 April 2019 21:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: Confirmation to advance: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-05
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Brian E Carpenter wrote on 30/04/2019 21:48:
> So I'd rather understand *why* the costs outweigh the benefits. One 
> more thing for an operator to configure and check in each first-hop 
> router, vs reduction of pointless traffic on updated hosts. I'm not 
> sure how to make that an objective rather than a subjective 
> trade-off.
Hi Brian,

Email is being a serious barrier to communication in this discussion :-(

The problem statement just isn't there:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/GCGYTXhg0V9mQBrcO7zhC5wtnp0

The contents of this email largely still apply to the current text in -05.

The cost is too high:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/NIJ194PI8CLkuZT8U_jKEOY01QI

You've shown no analysis of realistic use cases.

For something standards track, and this far down the protocol stack and 
with such a large security considerations section, the proposal ought to 
be thoroughly compelling for a wide variety of deployment scenarios, but 
it isn't.  There are better ways of skinning this cat.

Nick