Re: Confirmation to advance: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-05

Philip Homburg <pch-ipv6-ietf-6@u-1.phicoh.com> Sat, 11 May 2019 09:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: Confirmation to advance: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-05
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>So you don’t like the IPv6-only bit, you turn its processing off even 
>if it’s implemented.  Maybe it’s even off by default (for the next 
>year until your OS vendor thinks the times have changed).  Either way, 
>you have full control.  What more can you ask for than a total off 
>switch?  Save 40 lines of code?

For those who think that this flag is not needed, it doesn't help to
say that the flag can be off.

For network operators who are worried, it doesn't help to say that the user
can turn it off. 

>
>Ever wondered how much delay you have with dhclient running on an 
>IPv6-only network (without this flag)?  But that’s a matter of the 
>startup framework and software used in this particular case and not 
>necessarily generally applicable.  Anyway, you still have to say you 
>want IPv6 for it to run in first place.

Most networks today are IPv4-only. Delaying the common case by
3 seconds strikes me as weird. Also a good reason for users to keep the
flag off. Which makes the whole thing rather useless.

This draft adds almost nothing over what can be achieved with a few
heuristics.