RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis...
"David Dalby" <daviddalby@linguasphere.info> Wed, 01 August 2007 15:42 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis...
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Why not(?): A langtag may be formally valid but remain unrealized in meaning, e.g. .... -----Original Message----- From: David Dalby [mailto:daviddalby@linguasphere.info] Sent: 01 August 2007 16:33 To: debbie@ictmarketing.co.uk; addison@yahoo-inc.com; 'Marion Gunn' Cc: 'LTRU Working Group' Subject: RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... I agree! David _____________________________________________________ Dr David Dalby The Linguasphere Observatory Hebron Whitland Wales SA34 0XT -----Original Message----- From: Debbie Garside [mailto:debbie@ictmarketing.co.uk] Sent: 01 August 2007 13:44 To: addison@yahoo-inc.com; 'Marion Gunn' Cc: 'LTRU Working Group' Subject: RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison wrote: > A tag can be valid yet meaningless. I don't really like this as it seems, on the face of it, a contradiction in terms. I would propose one of the following: --- A tag can be well formed yet meaningless. A tag can be well formed in terms of syntax, and thus valid, yet meaningless in terms of its attributes. For example, ... --- Best Debbie > -----Original Message----- > From: Addison Phillips [mailto:addison@yahoo-inc.com] > Sent: 31 July 2007 16:52 > To: Marion Gunn > Cc: LTRU Working Group > Subject: Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... > > Marion Gunn wrote: > > > > However, here goes with one more attempt: > > > > "For example, although a tag such as 'ar-Cyrl-CO' (Arabic, > as used in > Columbia, > written in Cyrillic script) is > valid, it is [most] unlikely to be of > use, because > such > combination of attributes is unlikely to occur in actual > language > use." > > > > I note that it is useful to look at the actual editor's copy > when suggesting minor editorial changes. Upon reflection, I > found the current sentence to be a bit of a run-on. I've > taken your suggestion of 'unlikely' and edited further such > that the paragraph now reads: > > <t>Validity of a tag is not everything. A tag can be valid > yet meaningless. This is unavoidable with a generative system > like the language subtag mechanism. For example, a tag such > as "ar-Cyrl-CO" > (Arabic, Cyrillic script, as used in Colombia) is perfectly valid. > However, it is unlikely to be a useful tag, as it represents > an unlikely combination of language attributes that is > probably unrelated to any real language usage.</t> > > After five minutes from now, you will need to comment on > draft-08. I'm always happy to consider editorial changes that > improve the text. > > Addison > > -- > Addison Phillips > Globalization Architect -- Yahoo! Inc. > Chair -- W3C Internationalization Core WG > > Internationalization is an architecture. > It is not a feature. > > > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru > > _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Randy Presuhn
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Marion Gunn
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... David Dalby
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... David Dalby
- [Ltru] The third level of conformance (Was: Updat… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... David Dalby
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Debbie Garside
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... David Dalby
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
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- Re: [Ltru] Serbo-Croatian Deprecations and Varian… Addison Phillips