Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis...

"Mark Davis" <mark.davis@icu-project.org> Tue, 31 July 2007 16:35 UTC

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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:35:12 -0700
From: Mark Davis <mark.davis@icu-project.org>
To: Addison Phillips <addison@yahoo-inc.com>
Subject: Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis...
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> A tag can be valid yet meaningless.

"Meaningless" is exactly the wrong word. The advantage of a generative
system is that everything is meaningful -- the semantics of ar-Cyrl-CO are
clear. It is like a phrase "green-haired Afgan astrophysicist knitters".
Perfectly meaningful even if the denotation is the null set.


This should be rephrased as:

<t>Validity of a tag is not everything. A tag may be valid and meaningful,
yet there may not be any content to which it would apply. For example, a tag
such as "ar-Cyrl-CO" (Arabic, Cyrillic script, as used in Colombia) is
perfectly valid and meaningful. However, it is unlikely to be a useful tag,
as it represents an unlikely combination of language attributes which
probably don't actually occur together (at least as yet).</t>

Mark


On 7/31/07, Addison Phillips <addison@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>
> Marion Gunn wrote:
> >
> > However, here goes with one more attempt:
> >
> > "For example, although a tag such as 'ar-Cyrl-CO' (Arabic, as used in
> > Columbia,
> > written in Cyrillic script) is valid, it is [most] unlikely to be of
> > use, because
> > such combination of attributes is unlikely to occur in actual language
> > use."
> >
>
> I note that it is useful to look at the actual editor's copy when
> suggesting minor editorial changes. Upon reflection, I found the current
> sentence to be a bit of a run-on. I've taken your suggestion of
> 'unlikely' and edited further such that the paragraph now reads:
>
> <t>Validity of a tag is not everything. A tag can be valid yet
> meaningless. This is unavoidable with a generative system like the
> language subtag mechanism. For example, a tag such as "ar-Cyrl-CO"
> (Arabic, Cyrillic script, as used in Colombia) is perfectly valid.
> However, it is unlikely to be a useful tag, as it represents an unlikely
> combination of language attributes that is probably unrelated to any
> real language usage.</t>
>
> After five minutes from now, you will need to comment on draft-08. I'm
> always happy to consider editorial changes that improve the text.
>
> Addison
>
> --
> Addison Phillips
> Globalization Architect -- Yahoo! Inc.
> Chair -- W3C Internationalization Core WG
>
> Internationalization is an architecture.
> It is not a feature.
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Mark
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