Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis...
"Mark Davis" <mark.davis@icu-project.org> Tue, 31 July 2007 16:35 UTC
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From: Mark Davis <mark.davis@icu-project.org>
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Subject: Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis...
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> A tag can be valid yet meaningless. "Meaningless" is exactly the wrong word. The advantage of a generative system is that everything is meaningful -- the semantics of ar-Cyrl-CO are clear. It is like a phrase "green-haired Afgan astrophysicist knitters". Perfectly meaningful even if the denotation is the null set. This should be rephrased as: <t>Validity of a tag is not everything. A tag may be valid and meaningful, yet there may not be any content to which it would apply. For example, a tag such as "ar-Cyrl-CO" (Arabic, Cyrillic script, as used in Colombia) is perfectly valid and meaningful. However, it is unlikely to be a useful tag, as it represents an unlikely combination of language attributes which probably don't actually occur together (at least as yet).</t> Mark On 7/31/07, Addison Phillips <addison@yahoo-inc.com> wrote: > > Marion Gunn wrote: > > > > However, here goes with one more attempt: > > > > "For example, although a tag such as 'ar-Cyrl-CO' (Arabic, as used in > > Columbia, > > written in Cyrillic script) is valid, it is [most] unlikely to be of > > use, because > > such combination of attributes is unlikely to occur in actual language > > use." > > > > I note that it is useful to look at the actual editor's copy when > suggesting minor editorial changes. Upon reflection, I found the current > sentence to be a bit of a run-on. I've taken your suggestion of > 'unlikely' and edited further such that the paragraph now reads: > > <t>Validity of a tag is not everything. A tag can be valid yet > meaningless. This is unavoidable with a generative system like the > language subtag mechanism. For example, a tag such as "ar-Cyrl-CO" > (Arabic, Cyrillic script, as used in Colombia) is perfectly valid. > However, it is unlikely to be a useful tag, as it represents an unlikely > combination of language attributes that is probably unrelated to any > real language usage.</t> > > After five minutes from now, you will need to comment on draft-08. I'm > always happy to consider editorial changes that improve the text. > > Addison > > -- > Addison Phillips > Globalization Architect -- Yahoo! Inc. > Chair -- W3C Internationalization Core WG > > Internationalization is an architecture. > It is not a feature. > > > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru > -- Mark
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- [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Randy Presuhn
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Marion Gunn
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... David Dalby
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... David Dalby
- [Ltru] The third level of conformance (Was: Updat… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... David Dalby
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Debbie Garside
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... David Dalby
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Question on variants Karen_Broome
- [Ltru] Serbo-Croatian Deprecations and Variants Karen_Broome
- Re: [Ltru] Serbo-Croatian Deprecations and Varian… Addison Phillips