Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service

Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> Wed, 20 July 2011 01:21 UTC

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On Jul 18, 2011, at 2:28 , Tim Panton wrote:

> I understand the pushback on supporting  reliable datagrams from Cullen, Silvia, Serge and others.
> 
> I'm pushing for it simply because I've had it in our browser rt-audio component, and used it extensively.
> Without the ability to transport reliable datagrams in 'near realtime' the projects 
> we have done would have been far less compelling for the user. The Datagrams are often the 
> key to providing a special user experience, beyond conventional telephony. If we don't provide this,
> we risk producing the tools for a round of  browser based deskphone emulators. We can do better.
> 
> As an example, the demo I show in this blog would have been much harder and less responsive without
> realtime data coming back up the RFC 5456 channel :
> 
> https://babyis60.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/my-astricon-googlewave-ibook-skype-demo/
> 

cool - I had not seen that before 

> So I guess I am asking: Are we aiming for  browser based deskphone emulators or a new sort of
> rich media experience for browser users? 

Hey, I just want my black phone :-) Ok, I'm sold that a reliable data mechanisms be used and if people build their own, many of them will be bad. 

> 
> I know what I want.
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> Tim.
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