Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hilliard-v6ops-host-addr-update-00.txt
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Tue, 18 July 2017 12:35 UTC
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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 14:34:18 +0200
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To: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hilliard-v6ops-host-addr-update-00.txt
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Nick, it's not actually up to you to determine consensus, and you do not seem to actually be describing a situation where there was a lack of consensus. If you feel that there was indeed an error made by the chairs, who *were* responsible for calling consensus, the right thing to do would be to appeal to the chairs, and if you are not satisfied by their response, to appeal to the IESG, and so on. What you should not do is have an argument about whether or not there was consensus on the working group mailing list a year after the RFC was published. On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote: > Erik Kline wrote: > > The topic in general was discussed. > > ... without consensus in the context of > draft-ietf-v6ops-host-addr-availability, and after the change was made > in section 8 despite a lack of consensus that it was an appropriate > change to make, there was no further discussion. > > Nick > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >
- [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-h… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Job Snijders
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ross Chandler
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ross Chandler
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Erik Kline
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Scott Morizot
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Scott Morizot
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Scott Morizot
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ross Chandler
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] RFC7934 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Tore Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-hi… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Nick Hilliard