Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin

[Dave Crocker <[e-mail]>]

On 6/30/2013 3:14 PM, John Levine wrote:
>> And there have recently been some detail, independent reviews that
>> are prompted a document revision that will be issued within days.
>
> While I don't doubt that the next version will be better, I think that
> the dmarc.org group needs to make up its mind and either get a
> reasonably chartered IETF WG that says no gratuitous changes to the
> bits, contribute all of the drafts to the WG, and take its chances. or
> else contribute none of them and just send them in via the independent
> stream.


John,

Your premise is that something problematic and possibly wrong is being 
done.  It isn't.

The base specification is being submitted through the 'individual 
submission' path within the IETF stream.  We have a sponsoring AD and we 
are following his guidance for this.

An initial version of the draft was posted as an I-D.  The sponsoring AD 
has pressed for a number of reviews to be done.  An initial set were 
done and came back calling for some significant editorial changes, but 
no technical changes, essentially to make the document better to read.

Let me repeat:  better writing; no technical changes.

That seemed like an obviously good suggestion, so we are responding to 
it.  Rather than impose the original I-D on further reviewers, we 
decided to fold in their guidance now, with initial update, so that 
further reviewers can benefit from the improvements.

A working group is for technical work.  We've solicited suggestions for 
incremental technical work at least twice in two forums and there has 
been no constituency developed for any near-term work.  If you know of 
work to be done and can develop community support for it, please, 
please, please document it.

At that point, it will be worth considering working group chartering for 
technical effort on the base dmarc spec.  Absent that, it isn't.

As for the 'status' of the document, we are targeting a standards track 
RFC through the IETF stream.  The copyright choices for that are quite 
constrained.

d/


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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net