Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin

[Dave Crocker <[e-mail]>]

On 7/1/2013 10:24 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> I think it's very difficult to have a conversation about what work needs to be
> done at this point because we don't know what the base spec looks like.

Yes you do.

The changes being done are non-technical.  The technical details have 
been visible and stable for a long time.

You've also participated in other IETF group discussions during document 
development.  So the idea that a document is undergoing changes and yet 
is still being talked about is something you are familiar with.


> I
> think the last published version has some design issues that need to be
> addressed and it not nearly clear enough to support development of
> independent, interoperable implementations (including particularly the data
> exchange).

The clarity issue might well be a matter of writing quality, and that's 
what the current round of revisions is attempting to address.  "Design 
issues" sounds more technically substantive.  As has been said, no 
design changes are being made to the document in the current round.

Once again:  If you have technical concerns -- including design concerns 
-- please raise them here; pursue them here; resolve them here through 
group consensus.


> I'm not arguing for conspiracies, just that for those of us on the outside of
> the group, we don't know what we don't know.

You don't know what editorial changes are in the midst of being made. 
That's typically true for working group documents, too, since most leave 
such things to the editor.

However you /do/ know all the technical details, because they have been 
public and stable for quite awhile.

d/


-- 
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net