Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin
Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Sun, 30 June 2013 15:47 UTC
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Barry tells me that the base DMARC specification will be AD sponsored. Therefore, the BOF will talk about work beyond the base DMARC specification. Russ On Jun 28, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: > On 6/28/2013 2:16 PM, John Levine wrote: >>> that we modify the proposed agenda as follows: >>> -- Summary of DMARC >>> -- Summary of open issues >>> -- Charter review >>> -- Hums >>> >>> Comments? Thoughts? > > >> This version presumes that people attending the BOF need to read the >> drafts first, which seems utterly reasonable. >> >> For the charter, I think it's important for people to understand that >> DMARC is basically done with multiple working implementations >> including several at giant mail systems. (I've written one of the >> smaller ones.) So the WG can certainly clean up and clarify the text, >> and improve the discussion of where it's useful, but it's too late >> to make incompatible changes to the bits on the wire. > > This presumes that the DMARC base specification is part of the working group effort. There's been enough back and forth on this point that it's probably worth clarifying it for this list. > > To counter the suggestion not to discuss the current "Using" draft: Normally a BOF will provide some commentary about documents intended as input to the proposed working group. > > > d/ > > -- > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Dave Crocker
- [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Barry Leiba
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Russ Housley
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin J. Trent Adams
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Russ Housley
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Barry Leiba
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Franck Martin
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Franck Martin
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Franck Martin
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC BoF at IETF 87, Berlin Barry Leiba
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Rolf E. Sonneveld
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Matt Simerson
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements SM
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements J. Trent Adams
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements MH Michael Hammer (5304)
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Kurt Andersen
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Kelley, John
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Mike Jones
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Franck Martin
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Barry Leiba
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Roland Turner
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Charter improvements Greg Colburn