Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet Draft Deadline Approaching

[Lou Berger <[e-mail]>]

Jay,

Thanks for link, although it doesn't look like it is transparent on the 
full policy.  I'm not a big fan of arrangements where those who know a 
secret handshake get different treatment...

Lou


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On March 5, 2020 8:11:05 PM Jay Daley <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Lou
>
>> On 6/03/2020, at 1:46 PM, Lou Berger <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Jay
>> 
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>> On March 5, 2020 7:40:22 PM Jay Daley <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> 
>> > Lou
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 6/03/2020, at 1:33 PM, Lou Berger <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >> Jay,
>> >>
>> >> two very different points here:
>> >>
>> >> 1) Everyone's situation is different / unique and often more complicated 
>> than simply who is canceling. I  strongly urge you, the LLC and the iesg to 
>> have a single consistent, and public, refund policy for all.  (Either full 
>> refund for all or service charge for all).
>> >>
>> > I’m comfortable that our current policy strikes the right balance between 
>> an individual policy for each individual circumstance and a 
>> one-size-fits-all policy.
>> >
>> 
>> Can formally State / post what the policy is?. I think I heard if canceling 
>> due to the corporate policy, no refund. if individual is canceling and 
>> paying out of pocket or due to CA government action, full refund.
>> 
>> what about cancellation due to health issues?
>> 
> The special registration provisions are here 
> https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/107/ietf107-special-registration-provisions/
>
> If anyone has a special circumstance which is not covered but they believe 
> it should be then they should let us know at [e-mail]. If 
> your next question is why don’t we publish that, then the answer is because 
> people who are actually in that position do get in touch.
>
> Jay
>
> -- 
> Jay Daley
> IETF Executive Director
>
>> 
>> >> 2) have you checked on the legal exposure to the organization of 
>> continuing to hold the meeting in the face of so many public cancellations 
>> -  which are taking place at the organizational level (e.g., f8), the 
>> association level (IEEE, apc) and at the national level (CN and IS)?
>> >>
>> > Yes.
>> 
>> Very happy to hear that.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> Lou
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> > Jay
>> > --
>> > Jay Daley
>> > IETF Executive Director
>> >
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Lou
>> >>
>> >>> On March 5, 2020 6:58:28 PM Jay Daley <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 6/03/2020, at 12:50 PM, Carsten Bormann <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The difference should not be between corporate and government travel 
>> restrictions but between self-inflicted (company halts travel, company 
>> pays) and externally imposed (individual pays, employer still forbids 
>> travel; company pays, government forbids travel).
>> >>>
>> >>> I agree.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jay
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Grüße, Carsten
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Jay Daley
>> >>> IETF Executive Director
>> >>> [e-mail]
>> >>> [phone]
>> >>>