Re: Wrt. cancelling IETF107 in-person registration (was: Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet Draft Deadline Approaching)

Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Fri, 06 March 2020 12:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: Wrt. cancelling IETF107 in-person registration (was: Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet Draft Deadline Approaching)
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
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> On Mar 5, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> 
> I have to say that i am a bit appalled about discussions how to
> fix IETF registration policies so one would be able to recover the 10%
> cancellation fee that is currently in place for cases like
> corporate travel bans. 

I would agree with this sentiment.  I manage my expenses sanely and things like these fees I expense immediately.  If I don’t make it, eg: Singapore 100 - there were no issues with that nor the fee the hotel charged me for not showing the first day.

When you’re paying out of pocket this obviously hits harder, and I’m glad that I have employer support, but this falls into the wide category of risks the business takes on.  That includes things like change fees or all that gas I expensed for the rental car when I had to drive home from California in September 2001.

I think some of this bumps into your expense report or accounts payable culture at the companies, and I would expect they will see those expenses rack up and be accounted for, likely in a different bucket of accruals.  I learned a long time ago that deferring doing my expenses was not a good idea, I would forget things that the company would gladly pay for.  In the past 2 years I forgot to expense a catered lunch I brought in for a meeting until much later. I ended up not submitting it in part as a lesson to myself to do a better job in the future.

- Jared