Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet Draft Deadline Approaching
Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> Fri, 06 March 2020 01:10 UTC
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From: Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet Draft Deadline Approaching
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 14:10:30 +1300
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Lou > On 6/03/2020, at 1:46 PM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote: > > > Jay > > ---------- > On March 5, 2020 7:40:22 PM Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> wrote: > > > Lou > > > > > >> On 6/03/2020, at 1:33 PM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Jay, > >> > >> two very different points here: > >> > >> 1) Everyone's situation is different / unique and often more complicated than simply who is canceling. I strongly urge you, the LLC and the iesg to have a single consistent, and public, refund policy for all. (Either full refund for all or service charge for all). > >> > > I’m comfortable that our current policy strikes the right balance between an individual policy for each individual circumstance and a one-size-fits-all policy. > > > > Can formally State / post what the policy is?. I think I heard if canceling due to the corporate policy, no refund. if individual is canceling and paying out of pocket or due to CA government action, full refund. > > what about cancellation due to health issues? > The special registration provisions are here https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/107/ietf107-special-registration-provisions/ If anyone has a special circumstance which is not covered but they believe it should be then they should let us know at ietf-registrar@ietf.org. If your next question is why don’t we publish that, then the answer is because people who are actually in that position do get in touch. Jay -- Jay Daley IETF Executive Director > > >> 2) have you checked on the legal exposure to the organization of continuing to hold the meeting in the face of so many public cancellations - which are taking place at the organizational level (e.g., f8), the association level (IEEE, apc) and at the national level (CN and IS)? > >> > > Yes. > > Very happy to hear that. > > Thank you > Lou > > > > > > Jay > > -- > > Jay Daley > > IETF Executive Director > > > >> Thanks, > >> Lou > >> > >>> On March 5, 2020 6:58:28 PM Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 6/03/2020, at 12:50 PM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> The difference should not be between corporate and government travel restrictions but between self-inflicted (company halts travel, company pays) and externally imposed (individual pays, employer still forbids travel; company pays, government forbids travel). > >>> > >>> I agree. > >>> > >>> Jay > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Grüße, Carsten > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Jay Daley > >>> IETF Executive Director > >>> jay@ietf.org > >>> +64 21 678840 > >>>
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- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [107all] IETF 107 Standard Registration and I… Randy Bush
- Re: [107all] IETF 107 Standard Registration and I… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [107all] IETF 107 Standard Registration and I… Randy Bush
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Robert Raszuk
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Randy Bush
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Carsten Bormann
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Lou Berger
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Lou Berger
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Salz, Rich
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Wrt. cancelling IETF107 in-person registration (w… Toerless Eckert
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Alissa Cooper
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Alissa Cooper
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Randy Bush
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- RE: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Larry Masinter
- Re: risk zones (was: IETF 107 Standard Registrati… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Dirk Kutscher
- Re: risk zones Joseph Potvin
- Re: risk zones Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Wrt. cancelling IETF107 in-person registratio… Jared Mauch
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Lou Berger
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: risk zones Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Toerless Eckert
- Re: risk zones Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: risk zones Rich Kulawiec
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: risk zones Christian Huitema
- Re: risk zones Randy Bush
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jim Fenton
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