Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet Draft Deadline Approaching
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Fri, 06 March 2020 15:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet Draft Deadline Approaching
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Le 06/03/2020 à 14:40, Phillip Hallam-Baker a écrit : > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 8:30 PM Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in > <mailto:alissa@cooperw.in>> wrote: > > One thing that becomes obvious while serving in the IETF leadership > is that no-win situations are unavoidable. If you try to make > decisions based on objective criteria and take your time to gather > data, you get criticized. If you try to make decisions based on > anecdotal evidence or take what seems to be the path of least > resistance, you get criticized. If you follow the advice of one > group of participants, you get criticized by a different group that > disagrees. It can seem like an endless, thankless torrent of > messages telling you that no matter what you do, it’s wrong and it > isn’t good enough. > > So I’d like to say thank you to everyone on the IESG, Colin, Jay, > Greg, the team at AMS, and the WG and RG chairs for all they’ve done > thus far to help manage the IETF 107 meeting planning in light of > COVID-19.. Your work is appreciated. > > Alissa > > > Quite, this is not a decision you should be taking. It is a decision > the government should have taken. Cancelling IETF is not going to > have a significant impact on the spread of COVID, it only makes > sense if there is government leadership and we don't have that. > > China did the math: 2% of 1 billion people is 20 million. If this > thing takes hold, it is going to kill more people than WWII. > > At the moment everyone is focused on Vancouver. But we are almost > certain to see most sporting events including the Olympics cancelled > and at least one of the US political conventions. I would start > looking at contingency plans for the case we are told that 108 and > 109 are cancelled by government order. > > The impact of government travel restrictions is going to be > significant. But that is not going to be the only effect of this > crisis. There is going to be a desperate need for technology that > allows people to communicate and work remotely. I agree. That is a big need right now. There is also a need of electronic voting systems for those who need to vote soon. > And we are the people who are supposed to provide the open, > interoperable solutions. I agree. Openness and way of working can also be used as a good example. For example, I am still waiting for my humble request since 2 days to access GISAID database to see what looks like a digital form of this virus, because I optimistically imagine open access to data might help someone unthought of up to know to calculate some solution to the problem. Alex > > Skype, Zoom, WebEx, Keybase, Signal etc. are all fine for > collaboration inside enterprises. But none of them is a replacement > for email or the telephone because none of them can talk to each > other. We need a federated, open solution. And the IETF is the place > people are going to be looking to develop that. >
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- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [107all] IETF 107 Standard Registration and I… Randy Bush
- Re: [107all] IETF 107 Standard Registration and I… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [107all] IETF 107 Standard Registration and I… Randy Bush
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Robert Raszuk
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Randy Bush
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Carsten Bormann
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Lou Berger
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Lou Berger
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Salz, Rich
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Wrt. cancelling IETF107 in-person registration (w… Toerless Eckert
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Alissa Cooper
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Alissa Cooper
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Randy Bush
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jay Daley
- RE: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Larry Masinter
- Re: risk zones (was: IETF 107 Standard Registrati… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Dirk Kutscher
- Re: risk zones Joseph Potvin
- Re: risk zones Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Wrt. cancelling IETF107 in-person registratio… Jared Mauch
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Lou Berger
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: risk zones Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Toerless Eckert
- Re: risk zones Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: risk zones Rich Kulawiec
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: risk zones Christian Huitema
- Re: risk zones Randy Bush
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Jim Fenton
- on "positive" organizational culture Keith Moore
- Re: on "positive" organizational culture Jay Daley
- Re: on "positive" organizational culture S Moonesamy
- Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet D… Toerless Eckert
- Re: on "positive" organizational culture Keith Moore
- Re: on "positive" organizational culture Jay Daley
- Re: on "positive" organizational culture Toerless Eckert
- Re: on "positive" organizational culture Keith Moore