Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet Draft Deadline Approaching

[Jay Daley <[e-mail]>]

Ole

> On 6/03/2020, at 11:27 AM, Ole Jacobsen <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> This was discussed earlier. My initial understanding was that corporate bans
> WOULD be included in the refund policy, but then:

We did consider it and reported back in one of my updates [1].  For reference, the text there was:

"We understand that some people are very concerned about the risk to health, that some other events have been cancelled or switched to a remote-only model and that some companies are putting corporate travel restrictions into place.  However, it remains our view that there are significant risks in both under-reacting and over-reacting to this complex and developing situation, and as we are not epidemiologists or public health experts we will follow the evidence-based advice of those that are.

Following the same reasoning, we will not be offering full refunds in the event of someone being unable to travel due to corporate restrictions and the cancellation fee will still apply. Full details of our registration policy for IETF 107 Vancouver are available on our website"

Jay

[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/legMcsx2H_OEVLVtyESt_O-7qmY/

> 
>> On 17/02/2020, at 10:06 AM, Ole Jacobsen <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> 
>> My point: These blanket travel bans are NOT “government imposed,” but rather a matter of *corporate* policy in many cases.
> 
> I see, thank you for explaining that.  
> 
> I hesitate to make policy on the fly and so all I will say for now is that if anyone find themselves in this position they should get in touch with us.  I will discuss with colleagues whether or not we need to amend the policy.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
>> On 5 Mar 2020, at 14:22, Scott O. Bradner <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> 
>> in the assumption that companies will reimburse people who used their own credit cards to register?
>> 
>> maybe that will generally be the case but some people are likely to be screwed
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Jay Daley <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> (Distribution list trimmed)
>>> 
>>>> On 6/03/2020, at 10:46 AM, Scott O. Bradner <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 5, 2020, at 4:31 PM, IETF Secretariat <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> IETF 107
>>>>> Vancouver, Canada
>>>>> March 21-27, 2020
>>>>> Hosted By: Huawei
>>>>> 
>>>>> IETF 107 Information: https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/107/
>>>>> Register online at: https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/register/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Standard Registration Deadline
>>>>> 
>>>>>    REMINDER: The standard deadline for registration is Monday, March 9th.
>>>>>    Be sure to register and pay before the deadline passes!
>>>>>    Register online at: https://ietf.org/how/meetings/register/
>>>>> 
>>>>>    The IETF will offer a full refund of the registration fee to anyone who is unable 
>>>>>    to travel because of government imposed travel restrictions for IETF 107 in Vancouver.
>>>> 
>>>>                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> 
>>>> how about company imposed?
>>> 
>>> As previously announced, the cancellation fee is not being waived for cancellations as a result of company travel restrictions.  
>>> 
>>> Queries like this can always come directly to me or to [e-mail].
>>> 
>>> Jay
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Scott
>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
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