Wrt. cancelling IETF107 in-person registration (was: Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet Draft Deadline Approaching)
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Fri, 06 March 2020 01:27 UTC
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 02:27:06 +0100
From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org>
Cc: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>, 107all@ietf.org
Subject: Wrt. cancelling IETF107 in-person registration (was: Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet Draft Deadline Approaching)
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I have to say that i am a bit appalled about discussions how to fix IETF registration policies so one would be able to recover the 10% cancellation fee that is currently in place for cases like corporate travel bans. [ i apologize anyone to whom USD 70..100 cancellation is indeed such a big loss of money that they have to see it differently. Which i think should be quite a minority of IETF participants. ] I for once just had to send notice to IEF registrar asking to list me as a remote participant due to my corporate travel ban. I also told IETF registrar not to refund my USD 700 registration fee yet, because i asked my company to still cover the whole registration fee as an expense. With IETF essentially being a community funded by its participants, this is IMHO the appropriate way to share costs in case of emergencies for those participants who can afford it. I rather want IETF exist after IETF107 instead of getting a refund. Still waiting for my company to reply though. Aka: If/when you need to revert to a remote pumpkin like myself, check with your sponsor if that approach would not be an option for you too. Of course, if the situation allows for one of IETF insurances to kick in, the best way to share losses may be different, but so far i have not seen anything that this would be the case unless IETF107 was fully cancelled. Cheers Toerless On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 12:57:44PM +1300, Jay Daley wrote: > > > > On 6/03/2020, at 12:50 PM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote: > > > > The difference should not be between corporate and government travel restrictions but between self-inflicted (company halts travel, company pays) and externally imposed (individual pays, employer still forbids travel; company pays, government forbids travel). > > I agree. > > Jay > > > > > Grüße, Carsten > > > > -- > Jay Daley > IETF Executive Director > jay@ietf.org > +64 21 678840 >
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