Re: If categories of people are blocked by the U.S., should the IETF respond?

Tim Chown <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Wed, 01 February 2017 15:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: If categories of people are blocked by the U.S., should the IETF respond?
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 15:27:55 +0000
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Hi,

On 1 Feb 2017, at 13:44, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
> 
> Hiya,
> 
> On 01/02/17 13:12, S Moonesamy wrote:
>> 
>> I scanned the list quickly and I only found two IESG members, the IETF
>> Chair and you, commenting on the issue.  Do the other IESG members have
>> an opinion about the topic?  I'll Cc them to find out.
> 
> I can help you there. The IESG and IAB (and I'm told the IAOC
> and meetings ctte) have been actively discussing all of this.
> I'm on one thread between IAB and IESG that has 84 messages in
> total (though a good few of those are duplicates in my crappy
> foldering scheme;-). And I think this topic may be on the agenda
> for an upcoming IAB call and it is on the agenda for an IESG
> call tomorrow. If something concrete results from those calls
> it'll likely take at least a few days to be visible to the
> community. Or maybe we'll need a bit longer. (That's another
> reason why it was good that Jari/Andrew/Leslie posted that
> blog, and yes they'd gotten some feedback from I* folks
> before doing so.)
> 
> So while of course I* folks may respond to you if they've
> stuff to say, I don't think there's much need for a slew of
> "yeah we're aware of that" mails. But it is the case that quite
> a few IESG/IAB folks have been actively engaged on this.

It seems the person who is being officially appointed as IAB’s liaison the the IAOC will now not be able to attend the Chicago IETF:

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/icann-trump-travel-ban-internet <https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/icann-trump-travel-ban-internet>

(apologies if this has been mentioned already - so many emails on this important topic - but I also saw this directly on Facebook from the volume of shares on the post by people I trust, so I assume it’s genuine)

Tim