Re: IETF 107 and Corona Virus?

[Kyle Rose <[e-mail]>]

Anyone uncomfortable with traveling to Vancouver can self-cancel, i.e.,
attend remotely. Others will make the same risk assessment and come to a
different conclusion. I don't see why this needs to be decided centrally.


On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:24 AM Robert Raszuk <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Just in case you missed it.
>
>
> https://www.arnnet.com.au/article/671016/coronavirus-cancels-cisco-live-melbourne/
>
>
> And this is not only about the event itself .... it is also about sitting
> in partially recirculated plane for hours. And this is not about panic
> either. Till this specific virus can be 100% cured it is just common sense.
> Would anyone from IETF mgmt would want to risk even a single person due to
> this ?
>
> Sure it is not the same, but perhaps this situation gives us an
> opportunity to instead of cancelling it making it first virtual IETF ?
> After all overlay technology seems to be very common these days :)
>
> There is also another option - making it semi-virtual. rent 3 conf places
> in Asia, 2 in EMEA, 3 in Americas and join those via telepresence.
>
> Best,
> R.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 4:02 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=
> [e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, if the risk is big, but is not the case. I'm talking about the
>> situation in this case, and right now.
>>
>> I think we should avoid speculating and if we need to take a decision, it
>> need to be by consensus.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> @jordipalet
>>
>>
>>
>> El 13/2/20 15:58, "ietf en nombre de Belotti, Sergio (Nokia -
>> IT/Vimercate)" <[e-mail] en nombre de
>> [e-mail]> escribió:
>>
>>     When you're talking about "health" , the covering of expenses is
>> something that should be at lower priority , this is what I personally
>> would expect .
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Sergio
>>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     From: ietf <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
>>     Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:50 PM
>>     To: [e-mail]
>>     Subject: Re: IETF 107 and Corona Virus?
>>
>>     And then will you cover the expenses (flights, hotels) of people that
>> has booked it already, because I don't think the IETF has an insurance to
>> cover for it.
>>
>>     In the case of the Mobile Congress, they said the cost is over 450
>> million euros for the cancellation, plus claims that may come. It is a
>> totally different level and it only make sense because big companies
>> decided not to participate.
>>
>>     But in the case of IETF we are individuals, not companies and the
>> size of the meeting, and consequently the risks are totally different.
>> Clearly the Canada government will not allow anyone with risk of infecting
>> others to come into the country, so the IETF is already covered by that.
>>
>>     There is no such reason to cancel it. It will be only needed if our
>> meeting is in China.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Jordi
>>     @jordipalet
>>
>>
>>
>>     El 13/2/20 15:35, "ietf en nombre de Alexandre Petrescu" <
>> [e-mail] en nombre de [e-mail]>
>> escribió:
>>
>>         I think it should be cancelled.
>>
>>         It is not a good perspective to cancel something that is dear,
>> but under
>>         exceptional circumstances there might be need of exceptional
>> measures.
>>
>>         Alex
>>
>>         Le 13/02/2020 à 07:48, Andrew Alston a écrit :
>>         > Hi All,
>>         >
>>         > I am just wondering if there are any thoughts on the status of
>> the IETF 107 meeting in light of the corona virus.
>>         >
>>         > Particularly in light of the fact that for safety reasons
>> mobile world congress has been cancelled and we're seeing other events
>> being cancelled in light of this as well.  Should it be considered a safe
>> and responsible move to go ahead with this meeting or should we be looking
>> at an entirely virtual meeting in light of the situation?
>>         >
>>         > Andrew
>>         >
>>
>>
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