Re: IETF WG meetings and remote participation

Keith Moore <> Sat, 15 February 2020 22:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: IETF WG meetings and remote participation
To: "Joel M. Halpern" <>, Robert Raszuk <>
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On 2/15/20 4:52 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote:

> Actually, all the slides can be (and should be) posted in the meeting 
> materials section before the meeeting.  For the sessions I co-chair, 
> we make sure to get the material posted before the meeting starts. 
> Preferably enough before that people can look at them.
> Having said that, I have to disagree with the claim that there is no 
> need to present the material.  Reading slides is NOT the same as 
> getting a decent presentation.  And more importantly, the slides help 
> shape the discussion.  the remind people of context. They frame the 
> quesitons that need to be discussed.

I will agree to an extent.   I have occasionally seen brief 
presentations and slides that helped to frame discussion.   Mostly what 
I object to is devoting the lion's share of the time allotted to an 
author to be used for presentation, leaving only minimal time for 
discussion at the end.   That, IMO, is not usually an effective use of 
face-to-face time.  Also, slides put meeting attendees into passive 
mode, when what is needed is active discussion.   So sure, a few slides 
can be helpful, but it's easy to go overboard.

More broadly, while slides _can_ be used (sparingly) to frame discussion 
at a meeting, IMO they're actually more useful to summarize the document 
and discussion topics _before_ the meeting and/or to help participants 
"catch up" even after the meeting is held.