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Re: BCP97bis

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Mon, 18 October 2021 17:35 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 10:35:04 -0700
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Subject: Re: BCP97bis
To: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
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On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 7:51 AM Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote:

> Are normative references to X509 now not proper? Similarly, the next
> version of FIPS is a “diff” document around a couple of ISO documents; the
> cheapest price I found for them is USD $180.  Are normative references to
> FIPS 140-3 now not proper?
>

"Not proper" is a little hyperbolic, I think.  It creates a review barrier,
and that's the problem I'm trying to address.  A resolution to that barrier
doesn't have to involve declaring such a reference to be improper, and I
don't think that's what this is saying.

 We have a working group that supports IEEE point-to-point time protocol.
> That standard costs USD $280.  What should the NTP (and predecessor TICTOC)
> working group do?
>
>
Ask the IEEE for a freely available copy we can use, with restricted
distribution, to confirm compatibility between their standard and ours.
That's worked before (at least, I think it was the IEEE; might've been the
ITU).

-MSK


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