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Re: IETF 107 and Corona Virus? - scaling infra

Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Sat, 15 February 2020 16:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: IETF 107 and Corona Virus? - scaling infra
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
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Even as a local participant I might appreciate a way to submit things that doesn't have a high bar to participate. 

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> On Feb 15, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> All WGs sessions can be streamed as well instead of or in parallel to meetecho/webex. 
> 
> If we only make it as a rule that questions from remote participants can be submitted via notepad instead of live conference chat window, the scaling properties could be more than satisfactory even if 100s of folks join remotely.  And I never have seen any more participants in any WG sessions both in room and remote. 
> 
> I am not sure how IETF does streaming under the hood, but as we all know there are a number of ways to architect it globally with regional replications. Do we use any CDN provider already for that ? Would any one volunteer to serve as an additional src for this IETF ? 
> 
> Rgs,
> R.
> 
>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 4:11 PM Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > It would need to scale from 30 to 2000, two orders of magnitude.
>> There’s a live streaming option for the plenary and most join that.
>> 
>> Far more important to myself are the various working groups where standards work is going on that we may wish to contribute to
>> 
>> Andrew

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