Re: [rfc-i] Really not a poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty please) ?

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Wed, 28 October 2020 13:38 UTC

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On 2020-10-28, at 14:31, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
> 
>> If the functionality you are referring to is page numbers, we already
>> discussed why that is not in the IETF-provided tool.
> 
> No, I don't think so.  I believe all the arguments were germane with
> respect to publishing RFCs with / without page numbers, but not with
> respect to letting the tool have a switch to produce a format with
> page numbers.

I think we have a lot of confusion what our tools are good for.

The argument that non IETF-defined process uses a feature in an IETF-provided tool does not mean that the IETF-provided tool should not provide that feature for author use in the process (or even outside the process).

Grüße, Carsten

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