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Re: [rfc-i] John/rsoc: Re: Page numbers in RFCs questions / preferences

"John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> Mon, 26 October 2020 17:35 UTC

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From: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>, ietf@johnlevine.com, rsoc@iab.org
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> Could you please explain why RSOC does not want to permit the ability
> to have paginated RFC output options ? Also, where and when was this
> discussed with the community ?

It was discussed in the multi-year process leading to the IAB
publishing RFCs 7990, 7991, 7992, 7993, 7994, 7995, 7996, 7997, and
7998 in 2016. I'm sure you know how to find the discussions in the
archives.  Henrik knows all of this and I cannot imagine why he did not 
tell you the same thing.

I am aware there is one recent RFC author who did not participate in
the process at all and has been complaining that the text version of
his RFC doesn't have page numbers. I've explained this to him more
than once, and see no reason to waste more time on it.

R's,
John
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