Re: [rfc-i] Really not a poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty please) ?

Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Wed, 28 October 2020 11:18 UTC

Return-Path: <rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org>
X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396D43A0B0B; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 04:18:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.897
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.247, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LBypOg7UuxEC; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 04:18:20 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94C893A0B17; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 04:18:20 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17465F40737; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 04:18:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org
Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52F0F40737 for <rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 04:18:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org
Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aww--N0lM6V2 for <rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 04:18:05 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [64.170.98.42]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CF72F4072C for <rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 04:18:04 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:60414 helo=tannat.localdomain) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <henrik@levkowetz.com>) id 1kXjSx-0001yG-Vj; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 04:18:09 -0700
To: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>, John Scudder <jgs=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org>
References: <20201026020433.GA19475@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <CADaq8je8gMwAkOndTNJ9ndwzOZb2HQMZrCUJ5wNUjw-6ax9QtA@mail.gmail.com> <35EFE952-7786-4E24-B228-9BEE51D3C876@tzi.org> <20201026150241.GK48111@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <20201026162814.GP39170@kduck.mit.edu> <20201026164036.GO48111@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <1a56dc3b-56ef-3ffb-a12b-44d5e0d0f835@levkowetz.com> <20201026171931.GP48111@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <b733240-fc78-5a71-8920-ff84fbf64287@iecc.com> <20201026180105.GQ48111@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <03976f9f-7f49-7bf7-ce29-ee989232a44d@gmail.com> <7FA8EF59-5CDE-42B9-A487-520531EEA1F0@juniper.net> <m2sg9z1seh.wl-randy@psg.com> <3DC65259-20A7-4AFA-BC24-604AB184081E@fugue.com> <7AEF79AB-8CDF-4414-BBB8-D1EA9716F82F@juniper.net> <9ae1aaeb-5f42-5eb-e6cc-1a7e84c527@iecc.com>
From: Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>
Message-ID: <dd25161f-f8fc-0481-2d06-00907f4068fa@levkowetz.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:18:00 +0100
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <9ae1aaeb-5f42-5eb-e6cc-1a7e84c527@iecc.com>
X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242
X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsoc@iab.org, rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org, jgs=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org, johnl@iecc.com
X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com
X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000)
X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org)
X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Really not a poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty please) ?
X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." <rfc-interest.rfc-editor.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/options/rfc-interest>, <mailto:rfc-interest-request@rfc-editor.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.rfc-editor.org/pipermail/rfc-interest/>
List-Post: <mailto:rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rfc-interest-request@rfc-editor.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest>, <mailto:rfc-interest-request@rfc-editor.org?subject=subscribe>
Cc: "rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org" <rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>, "rsoc@iab.org" <rsoc@iab.org>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7706305596856339483=="
Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org
Sender: rfc-interest <rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org>

On 2020-10-28 00:33, John R. Levine wrote:
>> As a reminder for those who have lost track, this thread was kicked off 
>> by Toerless saying he would like to be able to render his own copies to 
>> include a useful table of contents, for his own use, at home, probably 
>> with the blinds drawn to keep the world from witnessing his shame.
> 
> I remember back when the IETF was full of engineers who looked at a 
> problem and wrote software to solve it.
> 
> It took about an hour to write this:
> 
>  	https://github.com/jrlevine/pagerfc
> 
> It takes an unpaginated text RFC, adds page breaks, headers, and footers, 
> splices the page numbers into the TOC, and since someone said it would be 
> useful, puts the current section header into each page footer.  Sheesh.

Umm.  So why is it OK to provide this functionality as a script, but not OK
to make xml2rfc able to do it?  I'm not talking about the RFC Editor publishing
paginated text, I'm talking about permitting xml2rfc to do what you've just
provided a tool to do.


Regards,

	Henrik


_______________________________________________
rfc-interest mailing list
rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org
https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest