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Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Sat, 22 October 2011 04:52 UTC

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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:52:06 +0900
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On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 03:13, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:

> Yeah, but try to make someone who says "i'm from IT/Security" i'm here to
> help read/know what a RFC is.
>
> Lost cause in most cases.  These are the same folks who think that TCP/53
> is just for zone transfers and will keep their head in the sand about
> dnssec/edns0 too.


The good news is that when these guys take "deny icmp any any" and translate
it into IPv6, they'll notice that nothing works at all, because you just
killed local neighbour discovery. So they will be forced to think about that
problem one way or another.

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