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Re: [v6ops] Implementation Status of PREF64

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Tue, 12 October 2021 04:50 UTC

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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 13:50:39 +0900
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To: David Farmer <farmer=40umn.edu@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Implementation Status of PREF64
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On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 4:35 AM David Farmer <farmer=
40umn.edu@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> This has been my experience as well, I haven't seen WiFi to WiFi tethering
> provided as an option. But I suppose WiFi to USB or Bluetooth or possibly
> other interface types is possible. I've only seen the cellular interface as
> the source for tethering to date on smartphones and tablets. But, Internet
> sharing on Windows and other OS is equally an issue in this respect.
>

Wifi to wifi tethering has been supported by many Android devices for years.

IIRC it cannot be disabled specifically by the enterprise: if the device is
in managed mode, the enterprise can disable all tethering, and if the
device is owned by the user, there is no way for the enterprise to disable
it. To me this is a clear example of how if networks insist on providing
only one address per device, the outcome will be NAT66 implementations in
those devices.

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