Re: [68ATTENDEES] Moving ahead with tools.ietf.org

"Aaron Stone" <aaron@serendipity.cx> Wed, 28 March 2007 18:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [68ATTENDEES] Moving ahead with tools.ietf.org
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On Wed, Mar 28, 2007, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> said:

> Hi Aaron,
> 
> on 2007-03-28 20:18 Aaron Stone said the following:
>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2007, Pekka Savola <psavola@csc.fi> said:
>>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>>>> on 2007-03-27 11:52 Pekka Savola said the following:
>> [snip]
>>>>>   2) The tools site should have very easy changelog that describes all the
>>>>>      changes made to services (or at least gives pointers to distinct,
>>>>>      tool-specific changelogs).  Modifications and enhancements are made
>>>>>      all the time, and you can't really exploit all of them unless you
>>>>>      know what they are or stumble on them by accident.
>>>>
>>>> Good point.  I'll set up a RSS and/or Atom feed for tool changelog
>>>> notes, and aggregate these into a once-per-week message on the
>>>> tools-discuss list, and maybe a once-per-month message to ietf-announce.
>>>>
>>>> Does this sound like a plan?
>>> 
>>> Sounds excellent to me.  Please put a prominent "What's new?" or "What's 
>>> changed?" on the web pages as well for the benefit of those who don't use 
>>> RSS/ATOM feeds nor subscribe the mailing lists (e.g., non-IETF goers, 
>>> non-regular participants).
>> 
>> And even for IETFers who don't have the bandwidth to subscribe to
>> everything, but would like to be able to find out what's new in other
>> WG's. We all hear about one another's work through other channels now and
>> then, and it'd be nice to find at least some cursory detail without
>> reading through months of mailing list archives.
> 
> You seem to be proposing something different than Pekka here; Pekka
> was proposing that new *tools* should be marked on the tools pages;
> you're proposing that there should be "What's new" markings for the
> WG materials on the WG pages on tools.ietf.org; is that right?

Oh, yes indeed, then I am suggesting something different. I thought we
were still on the issue of how the WG pages link (or don't link) to useful
information about the WG's recent work. Something of a cross between
these:

http://tools.ietf.org/wg/imapext/
http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/imapext-charter.html

The ietf.org page links to the charter page, and the tools page links to
the charter page, but the charter page doesn't link to much of anything
useful.

And yes, we're probably into general ietf@ietf.org territory on this
conversation, but I suspect I really really don't have the bandwidth for
that...

Aaron

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