Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilities (was Re: Guestroom Network not under NOC Control)

Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com> Tue, 29 July 2008 00:22 UTC

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+1 from here too.

Marshall

On Jul 28, 2008, at 5:56 PM, Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo) wrote:

> Everybody complaining about the guest room network,
>
> <The IAOC Chair hat on>
>
> I have a bit of sentiment that people don't understand the guest room
> network is not the primary responsibility of the host. It is extra  
> what we
> get if the host (this time Alcatel-Lucent) decides to provide it for  
> us for
> free. We have network requirements for hosts at
> http://iaoc.ietf.org/network_requirements.html for everybody to check.
>
> I have a bit of sentiment that the people complaining about the  
> guest room
> network have a hard time appreciating what it means to get free  
> access to
> the Internet from the hotel rooms and what it costs. Usually getting
> "ownership" of the hotel network is not an option, but never it is a
> priority. The priority is to get the meeting, production network to  
> work.
> That is what the host is responsible for. If you have problems with  
> that,
> you can submit a ticket at noc@ietf.org.
>
> In addition, no hotel networks are made for this kind of crowd. They  
> are
> made for "business people" who just download their e-mails. Not for  
> the
> hotel full of geeks running everything from bittorrent to something  
> they
> wrote last night after the bar. So, making it work would mean  
> upgrading the
> whole network - not an option.
>
> So, please, let's stop bashing our host about something they have  
> given us
> extra!
>
> I would like to thank our host for providing the guest room network  
> for
> free. In addition, they have done a great job hosting the meeting!
>
> Thank you, Alcatel-Lucent!
>
> </The IAOC Chair hat on>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jonne.
>
> PS. If anybody feels they have capability to build a better network,  
> please,
> show it by hosting one of the future meetings. You can find the  
> hosting
> opportunities from http://www.ietf.org/meetings/0mtg-sites.txt. They  
> are
> clearly marked as "Host: TBD". Thank you.
>
>
> -- 
> Jonne Soininen
> Nokia Siemens Networks
>
> Tel: +358 40 527 46 34
> E-mail: jonne.soininen@nsn.com
>
>
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