Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilities (was Re: Guestroom Network not under NOC Control)
Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com> Tue, 29 July 2008 00:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilities (was Re: Guestroom Network not under NOC Control)
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+1 from here too. Marshall On Jul 28, 2008, at 5:56 PM, Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo) wrote: > Everybody complaining about the guest room network, > > <The IAOC Chair hat on> > > I have a bit of sentiment that people don't understand the guest room > network is not the primary responsibility of the host. It is extra > what we > get if the host (this time Alcatel-Lucent) decides to provide it for > us for > free. We have network requirements for hosts at > http://iaoc.ietf.org/network_requirements.html for everybody to check. > > I have a bit of sentiment that the people complaining about the > guest room > network have a hard time appreciating what it means to get free > access to > the Internet from the hotel rooms and what it costs. Usually getting > "ownership" of the hotel network is not an option, but never it is a > priority. The priority is to get the meeting, production network to > work. > That is what the host is responsible for. If you have problems with > that, > you can submit a ticket at noc@ietf.org. > > In addition, no hotel networks are made for this kind of crowd. They > are > made for "business people" who just download their e-mails. Not for > the > hotel full of geeks running everything from bittorrent to something > they > wrote last night after the bar. So, making it work would mean > upgrading the > whole network - not an option. > > So, please, let's stop bashing our host about something they have > given us > extra! > > I would like to thank our host for providing the guest room network > for > free. In addition, they have done a great job hosting the meeting! > > Thank you, Alcatel-Lucent! > > </The IAOC Chair hat on> > > Cheers, > > Jonne. > > PS. If anybody feels they have capability to build a better network, > please, > show it by hosting one of the future meetings. You can find the > hosting > opportunities from http://www.ietf.org/meetings/0mtg-sites.txt. They > are > clearly marked as "Host: TBD". Thank you. > > > -- > Jonne Soininen > Nokia Siemens Networks > > Tel: +358 40 527 46 34 > E-mail: jonne.soininen@nsn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > 72attendees mailing list > 72attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/72attendees _______________________________________________ 72attendees mailing list 72attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/72attendees
- [72attendees] Guestroom Network not under NOC Con… LANGE Andrew
- Re: [72attendees] Guestroom Network not under NOC… Balazs Lengyel
- [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilities (w… Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… GOLDMAN, STUART O (STUART)
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Thomas Walsh
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Kurt Erik Lindqvist
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Kurt Erik Lindqvist
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Bill Fenner
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Eric Gray
- Re: [72attendees] Guestroom Network not under NOC… Paul Hoffman
- [72attendees] Found - YubiKey Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Lloyd Wood
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Kurt Erik Lindqvist
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Thomas Froment
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dale Worley
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Kurt Erik Lindqvist
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- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Ed Jankiewicz
- Re: [72attendees] Moving to social event Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Rosen, Brian
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Derek Atkins
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Randall Gellens
- [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs (was… John C Klensin
- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs … Kurt Erik Lindqvist
- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs … John C Klensin
- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs … Kurt Erik Lindqvist
- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs … Dale Worley
- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs … Mary Barnes
- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs … Ted Lemon
- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs … Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs … Ondřej Surý
- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs … Patrik Fältström
- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs … Ondřej Surý