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Re: [Add] What to do in this potential working group

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Thu, 22 August 2019 18:53 UTC

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To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
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Subject: Re: [Add] What to do in this potential working group
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> On Aug 22, 2019, at 06:26, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
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> I agree that there is a risk, but given that we know that the current design *also* has a high risk of surveillance and other leaks, and that in fact those sorts of things regularly occur, this doesn't seem to me to be anywhere near as strong an argument as you seem to think it is. 

As a non-US citizen, I strongly disagree that the argument that we are putting all eggs in US baskets is not a strong argument. The US government formally gives me 0 expectation of privacy and they dictate policy to US entities. It is worse informally as we’ve seen time and time again (echelon, Snowden etc).

While I understand you might feel okay with your government’s policies to protect your privacy please remain aware that is a very privileged position to be in.

Paul

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