Re: [earlywarning] Finishing the Charter Text Discussions

"SENNETT, DEWAYNE A (ATTCINW)" <DS2225@att.com> Wed, 07 April 2010 20:37 UTC

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From: "SENNETT, DEWAYNE A (ATTCINW)" <DS2225@att.com>
To: "DALY, BRIAN K (ATTCINW)" <BD2985@att.com>, Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>, "DOLLY, MARTIN C (ATTLABS)" <md3135@att.com>
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My "personal" view is that the charter as currently written is not
correct or adequate.

DeWayne 


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Subject: Re: [earlywarning] Finishing the Charter Text Discussions

Fine but my "personal" view does not change.

Brian Daly


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Subject: Re: [earlywarning] Finishing the Charter Text Discussions

The point is that people speak as individuals in the IETF and there is
no particular notion that a corporate opinion has any more weight than
that of any individual. Thus, stating a corporate opinion is out of
place and against IETF custom and convention.


Henning

On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:28 PM, DOLLY, MARTIN C (ATTLABS) wrote:

> They sure do, look at everyone's badge
> 
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> I didn't know that the IETF had corporate opinions. But maybe the IETF
rules have changed recently?
> 
> Henning
> 
> On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:13 PM, DALY, BRIAN K (ATTCINW) wrote:
> 
>> For the record, AT&T is in opposition to removing the last sentence.
>> 
>> Brian Daly
>> AT&T
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