Re: [Ianaplan] control and negotiation (was Re: draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-02 working group last call)

David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> Tue, 04 November 2014 20:58 UTC

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> Instead, ICANN unilaterally staked a  claim to the domain, by registering it.

% whois -h whois.pir.org iana.org
Domain Name:IANA.ORG
Domain ID: D1073204-LROR
Creation Date: 1995-06-05T04:00:00Z
...

There may be more to the story of IANA.ORG than you are implying.

Regards,
-drc
(ICANN CTO, but speaking only for myself. Really.)