Re: IPv4 Outage Planned for IETF 71 Plenary

"todd glassey" <tglassey@earthlink.net> Tue, 25 December 2007 05:36 UTC

Return-path: <ietf-bounces@ietf.org>
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J72SZ-0001Wv-Fv; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:36:11 -0500
Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J72SX-0001WS-B5; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:36:09 -0500
Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.61]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J72SV-0001Ij-Aa; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:36:09 -0500
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=TMBxHJRI4QYqZl4N/VXq9gt/Xh3tAzdrTLtoyRrp/3YIM38d9P1AbUmCC8bSNlZU; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP;
Received: from [64.125.79.23] (helo=gw) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1J72SU-0003Mv-UH; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:36:07 -0500
Message-ID: <034e01c846b8$0c227250$174f7d40@home.glassey.com>
From: todd glassey <tglassey@earthlink.net>
To: ietf@ietf.org, IETF Announcement list <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
References: <E1J68kX-0000kg-Rd@ietf.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:18:41 -0800
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type="original"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
X-ELNK-Trace: 01b7a7e171bdf5911aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79af7504c6de33573616b1a557be2a3bf4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c
X-Originating-IP: 64.125.79.23
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
X-Scan-Signature: 8f374d0786b25a451ef87d82c076f593
Cc: iaoc@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: IPv4 Outage Planned for IETF 71 Plenary
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: ietf-bounces@ietf.org

Russ while I understand the IETF's intent to force the world to use v6 
instead of v4 addressing I dont approve of any process as an  experiment 
that limits access to meeting's or the networks around them.  While I 
understand that these are issues pertaining to outbound services, I still 
feel that its too soon to break this off and that both v4 and v6 should be 
run around the plenary and all IETF meeting sessions while you are testing 
the v6 traffic management system.

Todd Glassey

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "IETF Chair" <chair@ietf.org>
To: "IETF Announcement list" <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
Cc: <iaoc@ietf.org>; <iesg@ietf.org>; <ietf@ietf.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: IPv4 Outage Planned for IETF 71 Plenary


> Dear Colleagues:
>
> I had no idea that my previous announcement would generate such a long
> stream of responses.  The lively discussion has been surprising,
> interesting, and also informative.  I need to share some history, some
> plans, and some reactions to this lengthy discushat its role is limited.  It 
> is a criticism to observe that an serious constituency thinks otherwise.

And a criticism of the IETF for not building controls which would assure its 
fair and open practices were a reality instead of what I refer to as 
"boilerplate fantasy's" IMHO.

Todd Glassey
>
> d/
>
> -- 
>
>   Dave Crocker
>   Brandenburg InternetWorking
>   bbiw.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ietf mailing list
> Ietf@ietf.org
> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf 


_______________________________________________
Ietf mailing list
Ietf@ietf.org
https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf