Re: potable e-mail, now Trying to do too much (was Re: the introduction problem, etc.)
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 19 May 2022 23:18 UTC
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To: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>, ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: potable e-mail, now Trying to do too much (was Re: the introduction problem, etc.)
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John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: > It appears that Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> said: >> Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> wrote: > But even though it's >> slightly cumbersome and a bit too expensive, > anyone can get their >> own DNS name, point their MX records at a mail > service provider of >> their choice, and change those MX records and >> >> No, that's not a portable (phone) email address. That's a new phone >> number. > Um, what? I'm using the same e-mail in the same domain I registered in > 1993 wven though it's gone through a whole lot of different providers > in the past two decades. Mail domains are extremely portable. Right. Mail *domains* are extremely portable. Now, explain to me how to move mcharlesr@gmail.com to yahoo or protonmail.com? ".forward" used to work, but DMARC policy makes this impossible now. > Technically it would not be hard to add a per-mailbox DNS lookup to > SMTP, ignoring the detail that no two mail systems agree what a mailbox > is. (Are bobsmith and bob.smith the same mailbox? Are bob and Yes, that's a further complexity. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
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