Re: the introduction problem, was Email and reputation (was Re: Service outages planned for April 25)
"Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)" <lyndon@orthanc.ca> Tue, 03 May 2022 23:55 UTC
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From: "Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)" <lyndon@orthanc.ca>
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Subject: Re: the introduction problem, was Email and reputation (was Re: Service outages planned for April 25)
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Comments: In-reply-to Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> message dated "Tue, 03 May 2022 00:46:11 -0400."
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Viktor Dukhovni writes: > Key distribution and discovery isn't the fatal problem, the fatal > problem is that encrypted email is unusable once received and > stored. To my mind that's a presentation layer issue. Once that message lands in my MUA it's up to me how I want to store it. If I chose to keep my local copy unencrypted, so be it. Since I use MH, building such a filter is trivial, and I've done it for OpenPGP messages many times (I keep losing the damn script when I move servers). For an IMAP store things get a bit tricker. It would need a protocol extention that allowed for on-the-fly decryption. And if you're a Plan 9 user, it's a simple matter of writing a decrypting file server :-) Point being, the software to do this doesn't have to be incredibly difficult. But this is out of scope for the current discussion. --lyndon
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