Re: the introduction problem, was Email and reputation (was Re: Service outages planned for April 25)
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> My goal is to sufficiently solve the problem so that I spend a negligible > amount of time dealing with unwanted communications. > > You keep setting up this binary success/failure. No, really, I'm not. We've been looking at the online introduction problem for decades, and the real life introduction problem for millenia. Everything you propose has been tried before. Much of it sort of works, sometimes, but none of it well enough that it's worth a large upheaval to use. >> Well, OK, but I can do that with procmail. Or Boxbe. > Not for your telephone calls you can't. Well, not with procmail but with something similar. You're making some unwarranted assumptions about how my phone works. > I am not claiming originality. Far from it. I am providing an > infrastructure which allows you to reduce the spam problem to the > introductions problem and then apply any techniques available to the > introductions problem. Good luck, but I'm not planning to shop for any gold trophies any time soon. R's, John
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