Re: A sad farewell
"Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> Thu, 05 November 2020 17:41 UTC
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From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: A sad farewell
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On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 02:32:30PM +0000, Stewart Bryant wrote: > I am also concerned about what I am seeing here, and also remember > the departure of the RFC Editor. > > I no longer understand the IETF commercial governance structure and > its oversight mechanism, but I have a feeling that a board of > respected neutral parties needs to be convened to conduct a review > and report their findings. Agreed. I'd also suggest that while it's easy to lay the blame at the feet of certain individuals and their perceived failings "to care for the community", it's also a good idea to take a look at the *systems* that are in place, and whether there is something about the structures, or what various RFC's or other documents may have caused individuals to assume that they were *supposed* to have to have taken a more corporate, "professional", attitude which ended up treating members of the community as cogs in a machine.... I wonder if perhaps this was an unintended side effect of trying to make the IETF "all growned up" and more of a "professional standards body" ala ISO.... - Ted
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