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Re: Market forces

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Mon, 09 November 2020 13:30 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Subject: Re: Market forces
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2020 08:30:17 -0500
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To: Simon Hobson <linux@thehobsons.co.uk>
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On Nov 9, 2020, at 07:49, Simon Hobson <linux@thehobsons.co.uk> wrote:
> Besides, as long as "stuff works" and the general population don't understand "all this technical stuff", then customers aren't going to be complaining. Until some of the IOT vendors (taking your examples) start telling customers that "your network is broken, this stuff will stop working unless you fix it" then there never will be any pressure on the ISPs to change.

Users won’t pressure ISPs. ISPs will want to move away from NAT64 on stub networks. When this becomes a pain point for them, they will suddenly see salvation in narrower delegations. Until then, they will not. There is nothing we can do to hurry this other than to continue to innovate in places where we do have agency.

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