Re: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: the race to the bottom problem

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[e-mail]>]

There are many ISPs offering IPv6. I never hear of any that doesn't use DHCPv6-PD to allocate /48, /56, some do /60, very few do /64 and we shall train them to understand that this is incorrect.

There is no technical neither cost reason (in terms of RIRs cost for getting a bigger IPv6 block), to allocate smaller prefixes for customers. The only reason they some time to /56 instead of /48 is "marketing" to differentiate business from residential customers. Nothing else.

Many ISPs do persistent prefixes.

Again, see RIPE-690 and https://indico.uknof.org.uk/event/41/contributions/542/attachments/712/866/bcop-ipv6-prefix-v9.pdf (look for the survey slides at the 2nd part).

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 7/11/20 4:24, "ipv6 en nombre de Michael Richardson" <[e-mail] en nombre de [e-mail]> escribió:


    Mark Smith <[e-mail]> wrote:
        >> Why are the isps not giving more than one 64 ?
        >>
        >> Is it because the ietf made it hard and dhcp-pd is unworkable ,

        > There are multiple production residential deployments of DHCPv6-PD.

        > I worked on one that was deployed in 2010. I then used it for the next
        > 8 years, and only moved away to another provider (and employer) where
        > it is in beta.

    That's much cool.
    It's very useful to hear of such successes!

    A question: was it easy to assign static subnets to the customers?

    My ISP initially statically routed my /56 to me, and then when they turned on
    PD, they now send me three subnets. One statically, and apparently two by
    DHCPv6-PD which they say they can't turn off/fix.  Very weird.
    Well.... they aren't present today.

        > Telstra here in Australia have also been deploying it for a number of
        > years in production.

        > Sky in the UK have deployed PD to 5 million subscribers.

        > PD is very workable, and a number of people have made it work.

    Maybe RIPE would do a survey to understand what has these things so
    successful so that others can repeat it!

    --
    Michael Richardson <[e-mail]>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
               Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
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