Re: the race to the bottom problem

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[e-mail]>]

It is IPv4-mind-set problem.

 

The solution is not to change that in standards. Otherwise, everytime operators decide to do something against standars, we change them again? The solution is to ensure that they missleaded operators get trained.

 

Fortunatelly the 29% is going lower and lower. ISPs are learning with the time (the survey is always open, so I keep measuring changes in the market).

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 8/11/20 2:36, "ipv6 en nombre de Lorenzo Colitti" <[e-mail] en nombre de lorenzo=[e-mail]> escribió:

 

On Sun, 8 Nov 2020, 08:24 Nick Hilliard, <[e-mail]> wrote:

this is the problem: I did read it, just like I've read through all the 
other threads on this topic over the last several years. There was a 
repeat of the usual speculation, generalisation and echo-chamber 
mechanics which have characterised this discussion at the ietf since 
more-or-less forever.

You said: "we’ve already seen clear pressure to race to the bottom".

So I politely ask you again: please provide citations to data.  Then we 
can have a discussion.

 

Ok, I'll bite. Once. :-)

 

Here's some data:

 

https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-v6ops-4.pdf

 

says that 29% of survey responses says the LAN prefix size is /64. This is despite pretty much every IETF and RIR document saying that ISPs should assign more.

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