Re: the race to the bottom problem

[Gyan Mishra <[e-mail]>]

On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 11:36 AM Nick Hilliard <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Joel M. Halpern wrote on 08/11/2020 00:00:
> > I am not sure what data you are looking for Nick.
>
> honestly, I'm not sure that any useful data even exists which suggests
> that right now, this entire "race to the bottom" discussion is an
> echo-chamber affair.  As Barbara points out (correctly, imo), the entire
> discussion is based on FUD and it's about time that this working group
> acknowledged this.


   Gyan> Completely Agree!

>
>
> > History does tell us that ISPs give out very long prefixes even when
> > they do not need to.
>
> Addressing scarcity has been an issue since before we had functional or
> widespread access services.  Also, provisioning mechanisms in the early
> days of access services were bereft of functionality, which meant that
> doing anything other than a single ipv4 statically-assigned /32 was
> troublesome and non-scalable.
>
> There's never been a period where commodity ipv4 access products were
> available and where ipv4 addresses weren't a scarce resource, and
> scarcity has been the primary driver of addressing assignment policies
> since commodification of internet access services.  So this line of
> argument is not valid because there isn't a scarcity of ipv6 addressing
> resources.
>

    Gyan> My point exactly.  We would have to prove based on data we have
today that IPv6 address depletion is even a remote possibility.  If not
then the argument of “race to the bottom” has no validity.

>
> Nick
>
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