RE: 3484bis and privacy addresses

"Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)" <tireddy@cisco.com> Thu, 05 April 2012 07:01 UTC

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Subject: RE: 3484bis and privacy addresses
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 12:29:12 +0530
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From: "Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)" <tireddy@cisco.com>
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Firewall policies are moving towards identity (user, user-group) +
context (location, Bring your Own Device (BYOD)) attributes to enforce
appropriate policies. In enterprises hosts with EAP kind of supplicants
can be tracked even when the IP changes but for guests, BYOD without
such supplicants IP address based authentication is still required and
for such users, switches acting as DHCP relay agent can influence the
DHCP server not to assign temporary addresses
(http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-reddy-mif-dhcpv6-precedence-ops-00)

 

Regards

Tiru.

 

From: ipv6-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Ray Hunter
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:30 PM
To: Brian Haberman
Cc: ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: 3484bis and privacy addresses

 

>From the corporate World: option A as default, with local user
controlled option to override.

RFC3484 (which references RFC3041) "Temporary addresses" are a menace to
fault finding, audit, logging, firewall rules, filtering, QoS matching,
conformance: anywhere where an ACL or stable address is used today. Sure
we shouldn't use fixed/stable IP literals, but we do. And in many cases
there aren't any practical alternatives in today's products, so the IP
address is the lowest common denominator used to identify a machine (and
dare I say even "a user" in some circumstances).

Also not sure if any DHCPv6 server implementations actually provide
DHCPv6 assigned temporary addresses in practice.

My take on this is that a set of a few hundred individual persons who
are worried about privacy are more likely to be able to control their
own particular machines to correctly override the "default off" setting
than a single corporate network manager is to be able to guarantee
overriding a "default on" setting on 100% of 10000 machines attached to
their network.

regards,
RayH

Brian Haberman wrote: 

<div class="moz-text-flowed">All, 
     The chairs would like to get a sense of the working group on
changing the current (defined 3484) model of preferring public addresses
over privacy addresses during the address selection process.  RFC 3484
prefers public addresses with the ability (MAY) of an implementation to
reverse the preference.  The suggestion has been made to reverse that
preference in 3484bis (prefer privacy addresses over public ones).
Regardless, the document will allow implementers/users to reverse the
default preference. 

     Please state your preference for one of the following default
options : 

A. Prefer public addresses over privacy addresses 

B. Prefer privacy addresses over public addresses 

Regards, 
Brian, Bob, & Ole 

</div> 

 

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